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Smoking Ban Discussion Continues in Stone Mountain City

City council members and others once again shared various views on the subject at Monday's work session.

The smoking ordinance debate in the City of Stone Mountain burns on.

Up for discussion again at Monday night's work session, this time council members and others talked about whether smoking should be prohibited at city parks and city events, such as the Blue Grassroots Festival, route: {:controller=>"articles", :action=>"show", :id=>"video-blue-grassroots-festival-in-stone-mountain-village"} --> and

john davidson September 18, 2012 at 01:39 PM
A non-smoker who said she is sensitive to people with allergies to cigarette smoke, Ryles would be in favor of having designated smoking areas at events. Tobacco smoke contains no proteins from which an allergy can occur. The woman is delusional and been fed anti-smoking junk science.
john davidson September 18, 2012 at 01:40 PM
Scientific Evidence Shows Secondhand Smoke Is No Danger Written By: Jerome Arnett, Jr., M.D. Published In: Environment & Climate News Publication Date: July 1, 2008 Publisher: http://www.heartland .org/policybot/resul ts/23399/Scientific_ Evidence_Sho... myth-of-second-hand- smoke http://yourdoctorsor ders.com/2009/01/the -myth-of-second-hand -smoke BS Alert: The 'third-hand smoke' hoax http://www.examiner.com/public-policy-in-louisville/bs-alert-the-third-hand-smoke-hoax The thirdhand smoke scam http://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2010/02/thirdhand-smoke-scam.html Heart attacks Frauds and Myths.. http://www.spiked-on line.com/index.php/s ite/article/7451/
john davidson September 18, 2012 at 01:41 PM
OSHA / NIOSH RESEARCH In 1991 NIOSH { OSHA' research group} Looked into ETS although at the time they recommended reducing ETS exposure they found the studies lacking. NIOSH recognizes that these recent epidemiological studies have several shortcomings: lack of objective measures for charachterizing and quantifying exposures,failures to adjust for all confounding variables,potential misclassification of ex-smokers as non-smokers,unavailability of comparison groups that have not been exposed to ETS, and low statistical power. Research is needed to investigate the following issues: 1. More acurate quantification of the increased risk of lung cancer associated with ETS exposure,including determination of other contributing factors[e.g.,occupational exposures]that may accentuate the risk. 2.Determination of the concentration and distributuion of ETS components in the workplace to help quantify the risk for the U.S. working population.
john davidson September 18, 2012 at 01:41 PM
a.The association of ETS exposure with cancer other than lung cancer b.The relationship between ETS exposure and cardiovascular disease c.The relationship between ETS exposure and nonmalignant resporatory diseases such asthma,bronchitis and emphysema, and the effects of ETS on lung function and respiratory systems c. Possible mechanisms of ETS damage to the cardiovascular system,such as platelet aggravation,increased COHb leading to oxygen depravation,or damage to endothelium d.Effects of workplace smoking restrictions on the ETS exposure of nonsmokersand ETS-related health effects in nonsmokers After ten years of no conclusive research and lack of studies that didn't eliminate the bias OSHA decided that the studies did not have substance and here is there present policy. Environmental Tobacco Smoke (ETS) Because the organic material in tobacco doesn't burn completely, cigarette smoke contains more than 4,700 chemical compounds. Although OSHA has no regulation that addresses tobacco smoke as a whole, 29 CFR 1910.1000 Air contaminants, limits employee exposure to several of the main chemical components found in tobacco smoke. In normal situations, exposures would not exceed these permissible exposure limits (PELs), and, as a matter of prosecutorial discretion, OSHA will not apply the General Duty Clause to ETS.
Leslie Johnson September 18, 2012 at 04:08 PM
Hi John, thanks for the information re: no allergies to tobacco smoke. Some people were making the overall point last night about people with sensitivity to cigarette smoke, including those with allergies and asthma, and used words interchangeably in making their arguments.
john davidson September 18, 2012 at 06:09 PM
Smoke is smoke is smoke and its classified as an irritant by both epa and osha. Sensitivity in hyper-sensitive individuals would be watery eyes! Many of these folks arent really bothered by the smoke,its the emotionalism of their cause that drives them to be victims for the cause. Professional victims and no doubt they have testified in other towns like Norcross who just repealed their ban altogether.
john davidson September 18, 2012 at 06:13 PM
Toxicol Rev. 2003;22(4):235-46. Idiopathic environmental intolerance: Part 1: A causation analysis applying Bradford Hill's criteria to the toxicogenic theory. Staudenmayer H, Binkley KE, Leznoff A, Phillips S. Source Behavioral Medicine, Multi-Disciplinary Toxicology, Treatment and Research Center, Denver, Colorado 80222, USA. hstaudenmayer@comcast.net Abstract Idiopathic environmental intolerance (IEI) is a descriptor for a phenomenon that has many names including environmental illness, multiple chemical sensitivity and chemical intolerance. Toxicogenic and psychogenic theories have been proposed to explain IEI. This paper presents a causality analysis of the toxicogenic theory using Bradford Hill's nine criteria (strength, consistency, specificity, temporality, biological gradient, biological plausibility, coherence, experimental intervention and analogy) and an additional criteria (reversibility) and reviews critically the scientific literature on the topic. The results of this analysis indicate that the toxicogenic theory fails all of these criteria. There is no convincing evidence to support the fundamental postulate that IEI has a toxic aetiology; the hypothesised biological processes and mechanisms are implausible. ...
Susan Leisure September 18, 2012 at 07:12 PM
I think we would attract more visitors if we were able to promote that Stone Mountain Village is a smoke-free environment. Several studies have shown that smoking bans have little or no adverse affect on business. And the hikers, walkers, bikers and other outdoor enthusiasts who come to the park may be more willing to come into town to eat or shop, if they know they won't have to walk through smoke. At the very least, I think we need a ban on smoking in public thoroughfares, including sidewalks. I know personally that I avoid any restaurant, bar or shop that allows smoking inside (even under the limited DeKalb Co exceptions) or that have congregations of smokers outside the business. Detailed studies in favor of smoking bans are available at http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0144.pdf.

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